he wasn't a john edwards confession. he said look, seven tours and i doped. number one. you say, apologize. he took the hit. it wasn't a mark mcguire, half pregnant apology. i was under too much stress. he said it was my fault. i deserve it. he volunteered to help find better regulations, but he said i have no credibility. i understand that they don't want me to do it. and then you say, okay being be sincere. this guy could never be sincere. what he said my whole life was a lie. that is pretty brutal. jenna: sean, you're shaking your head a little bit? >> well, you know, maybe he was forthcoming. one thing the line was, i didn't dope during my comeback in 2009 and 2010. jenna: he lost those years, by the way. >> he was very emphatic about that. you know, the people with evidence think that is may not be entirely true. look, what i think was going on here, this was the first step towards making a proffer. what basically showing the government what he could say if they decide to drop charges against him or bring him in. jenna: real quick here, frazier, you get the feeling